Author Topic: In search of Salmon Gum culture/print  (Read 804 times)

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In search of Salmon Gum culture/print
« on: January 04, 2017, 12:14:49 AM »
Hello Edible Mushroom forum members!

I am a mushroom grower from the United States.    Three years of growing experience, home built equipment, farmers markets and restaurants later I've started reaching for the less common mushrooms.   All of my competition has access to the same mushroom sources as I do.   Getting an edge over the competitors comes down to better equipment, better practices, more space and/or unique selection.     I've sunk as much of my cash resources I can into my equipment, streamlined  my procedure and used every space I have available to me to the best of my ability and resources, that leaves unique selection as my obvious choice, which is why I find myself begging for the kindness of Australian strangers!   
 
The Black Bolete, Aka Phlebopus Portentosus, Salmon Gum, etc etc. is apparently able to grow saprobically and is therefore a candidate for bag cultivation which has been achieved in Thailand and China but is still lagging here in the U.S. as far as commercial production goes.      I'd like to collect  some spore prints (or even live culture!) from this mushroom and attempt to develop it here in the states.    I've been trying to acquire this from both Thailand and China - via web forums - and have had very little success.    The language barrier - is a barrier.     At least we (Australia and U.S.) share the same language and can easily discuss the matter without the aid of Google Translate.   
 
I am unfamiliar with Australia's import/export limitations, customs enforcement, etc, but I am willing to do trades, pay for the shipping, pay for the culture/print or whatever you may find reasonable (and legal) to get this mushroom in my collection.    If you can help- if you know someone who can help, please let me know. here or by private message.   Thank's for reading!.

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Re: In search of Salmon Gum culture/print
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 02:42:41 PM »
I know it as Phlebopus marginatus. 

It is only loosely considered edible, not necessarily thought of as confirmed edible.

In autumn/winter I'm happy to source spores or possibly a culture for you.  That shouldn't be a problem at all. 

I believed it was mycorrhizal but I'm glad to hear it isn't. 

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Re: In search of Salmon Gum culture/print
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 08:34:20 PM »
Hi NSF,   thanks for responding so quickly.   I am thrilled that you are willing to help.   Perhaps I can return the favor in some way!

I was unaware of this mushroom entirely until it came up on another websites' 'Exotic Culture Coop Buy" thread.   Several of us contributed towards a GoFundMe campaign that never made its goal.    The plan was to order it through ATCC a culture library here in the states.   It is carried there for a high price - $354 - but they only sell to qualified research  labs -   which I could seem to convince anyone of, lol.

Here is a link to a study on their cultivation:   http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11557-010-0700-7
and another   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26671421# and finally this one:    http://wsmbmp.org/Bol14/3.html

In my reading from Australia, it seems that they start appearing around April or May, does that sound right to you? 
 
Anyway, I'm thrilled by your response.   Sourcing these big buggers has been a long process. 

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Re: In search of Salmon Gum culture/print
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Re: In search of Salmon Gum culture/print
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 09:05:35 AM »
I just looked back over my photos of the last year and I was holding a large one in April, so yep, you are bang on with your guess. 

I hope you've got space to grow them.  Well, I hope you have substrate large enough that will produce large fruit. 

I like both photos of them here: https://morrie2.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/phlebopus-marginatus-salmon-gum-bolete/