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Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« on: September 05, 2011, 05:33:21 PM »
A while back my mother traveled to Italy and an Italian guy on the bemushroomed forum told me that my mum should visit a huge mushroom farm near bologne, however she was unable to make it. I tried to contact them but I got no response so I went to the drastic measure of using the google translate function to translate my e-mail to Italian, they responded in Italian then I translated it back to english.
They told me that they supply only one person in Australia:

Beautiful Mushrooms

Thomastown Vic 3074
Ph (03) 9460 6808 Fax: (03) 9460 4139
Email: beautifulmushroom@gmail.com
website: www.funghimara.it (this is the company that make the spawn)

here's their products
(dried spawn 100g - Jim how do they do this?)

I like the fact, that there is some shelf life which really helps the busy person.
I'm sure NSF knows what I mean it gets to a point where the mycelium running starts to over run your life LOL

the other interesting product is these three compressed cardboard sheets that you soak in water and lay spawn inbetween the layers of thick wet cardboard, pop in a bag and then pop into fruiting conditions or outdoors.

 Please read on for a PRICELIST





« Last Edit: May 27, 2012, 03:33:31 PM by themushroombloke »

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 06:55:28 PM »
This is a fantastic discovery.  You've put in lots of effort and got a great free reward for it.  Along with a heap of new ideas!

And yes, my incessant (I'm sure it's irritating) posting on the forum is because a.)  I over share and b.) there's so much to do to keep up with the fungi ball once you start it rolling!

I really want to see how the dehydrated fungi recovers.  Then it'd be great to know how to dehydrate our own and keep it viable!

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 07:09:28 PM »
googling dehydrating mushroom spawn now :o

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 07:04:38 AM »
never heard of dehydrated spawn....dessication = death
sounds like a multispore germination
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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 08:21:57 AM »
I heard him rattling the packet, it sounds like he's got little pellets of something in there.  Sure, perhaps it's spores stuck to something.

But Jim, why do people claim they can rejuvenate viable tissue culture from bought dried mushrooms? (ie shiitake?)  Apparently fungi never dies, it just goes into stasis, or that's the impression people are giving.  I'm not sure I believe it either. 

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 08:37:40 AM »
Never tried it, never heard of it. Would be interesting. I know some genera will rejuvinate if the fruiting bodies dessicate. Perhaps there is a survival mechinism inplace for that type of tissue in some fungi where as the hyphal network in the substrate that has not aggregated specifically lacks this mechanism.
Not sure and not confident about it. But lacking other potential methods of obtaining them, it is worth a bit of a crack. However I doubt the viability.
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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 10:26:37 AM »
i did see some reanimation teks on the shroomery a while back.....

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 10:38:12 AM »
themushroombloke at work:

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 11:09:42 AM »
I cant do it cappin' I jus dun ave the power!

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 01:07:08 PM »
Or maybe a colonised grain spawn that has been dehydrated?

Even if the outer 2/3rds of the grain are dried up there might still be some living tissue in the moist center of the grain. As for mushrooms in general? There are a few species that come to mind that tend to like manicured garden beds. These have a tendency to dry out and then rehydrate over winter/summer depending on your wet season. They also come back after droughts. Then again, the soil is still probably damp and just keeping them in stasis.
Mushrooms hemispheric to plane, spotted to marbled with "water spots"pn the cap measuring 2-7cm. Cap margin inrolled to incurved when young. Mushrooms dark tan, becoming brown when mature. Gills bluntly attached to stem, close, firm and "wax-like". Stem thich and central. -Hypsizygus tessulatus

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 02:48:14 PM »
super update: if this kit works it's genious!


First of all: more pics of the actual product/substrate



kit contents

close up of the cardboard stuff (loosly compressed cardboard)



THE PROCESS: I decided to go with Pleurotus ostreatus

ok so soak the cardboard in warm water for 15 -20 mins



Now drain



close up of wet substrate



now pour 1/2 packet of DEHYDRATED MILLET GRAIN SPAWN onto the substrate board,



place another moist cardboard sheet on top,



 repeat with other 1/2 spawn and more cardboard



Now pop this in the bag included in the kit - done!



instructions say keep them at 25C for 4-8 weeks until completely colonised

will update with fruiting results later

here's some close ups of the millet spawn




oh one other thing I put some of the wet cardboard stuff in my mouth and it tastes like cardboard...dumb i know but I wanted to make sure.



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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 02:57:33 PM »
Look at you go.  Revolutionising what we know about mushroom life cycles!

Did you drop any on agar to see if it recovers there too?  Which would also be a head start for you storing or expanding the strain. 

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 03:24:21 PM »
i've already called 12 different companies trying to find a similar cardboard in australia so far no luck.

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 04:27:20 PM »
So i do the smart thing and check the funghimara.it webpage to find out it's "chopped steam-sterilized poplar wood" not actual cardboard

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Re: Dry spawn packets (got my hands on some)
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 04:56:47 PM »
Did you call the aussie distribution company and buy more?